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Posted: Tue Sep 1st, 2009 02:15 pm |
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On Connection (Part 4/6)
Posted: 31 Aug 2009 05:27 AM PDT
In neurosis there is a loss of integration among brain sites so that memory cannot be conflated with inner sensations and external reality. We lose our wholeness so that past and present cannot be differentiated. Remember again that when animals are traumatized and then put again in a similar situation without the trauma, the brainwaves are practically identical. The brain cannot tell the difference between past and present, and forces us to react as we did in the past even when that reaction is not called for. In neurosis we live in the past without being aware of it. We are shy with others because an angry father forced us to give in and submit unquestioningly. This kind of father takes the child’s “no” away so that later on she cedes to other’s wishes all of the time. Thus, she reacts in the present as if it were the past.
Without lower level connection to higher levels, we are only considering the late developing cortical brain and not the brain as a whole. Sadly and happily, no one can make a connection (insight) for us; it must come out of a feeling, and it must do so in slow orderly fashion. When the patient has the connection, we know it is time. When the insight is forced by a therapist, it usually is not the time—organically; it defies evolution—ideas after feelings, not before. Neurosis manages to fragment that reality (disconnection). Feeling therapy reestablishes that total reality. There is a unity of nature that happens only with connection. Connection, therefore, is the merging together of related neural networks on all levels of consciousness.
It should be clear that dissociation restricts consciousness, not awareness, and we need consciousness, not awareness, for control. I can make this same impatient individual aware (left frontal area) in therapy that he is terribly impulsive and cannot stand waiting, but that does not produce the bottom to top connection that allows for control—the connection between deep right brain and left pre-frontal brain. Even with full awareness, the right lower brain sends impulses throughout the body that gnaws away at various organs. The result may be colitis (often first line originated) or bleeding ulcers, which cannot be stopped without first-line access. The aware person can be totally unconscious of all of this. The unconscious has no way to become conscious in the neurotic. Neurosis means an altered state of consciousness. That includes defective or impaired bottom-to-top brain circuitry. In brief, the brain is rewired. In the adult, instead of feeling the need for love and caress, one may feel immediate sexual impulses or the drive to eat. The more that those circuits are deviated and continue to fire in a specific way, the more the rewiring becomes reinforced.
We need to go back and relive the times of first deviation if we are to make headway to resolving it. We go back to reset the set-points toward normal. That is why in our therapy, the naturally produced inhibitor or repressor—serotonin—is enhanced after one year of sessions. Its set-points have been reestablished. It is sometimes possible to get relief by delving only into later childhood traumas, leaving the prototype in place. If the threshold for symptoms is raised by this approach, all the better. There will be no overt symptoms but the tendency is still there. Thus, an alcoholic may not be forced to drink when some of the pain is relived, but he will always be in danger thereafter. If we are looking for total personality change, it will not be possible without addressing the imprint. If one is happy with having no symptoms, then so be it. It is the patient’s life, not ours.
Early trauma, birth, and pre-birth, will generally interfere with the proper evolution of the right brain and its connections to the left. It remains so excited that even neutral events can set it off. Do we need a therapist to help us see outside reality? No. We need a therapist to help us find the internal one; the rest takes care of itself. To be specific: We need to access the right brain because that brain (specifically the orbito-frontal cortex. And the lower brain, as well) contains a map of our emotional history and our internal state. With access we don’t have to figure out what happened to us at age two, we can re-experience and know it. And we will immediately know how that experience drove us. That is why recall is so different from reliving.
(Let me hasten to add that there are any number of limbic structures and adjacent ones that are involved, including the ventral anterior cingulate which seems to “straighten out our perceptions”. It is beyond my competence and intent to discuss them).
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...it defies evolution—ideas after feelings, not before. Neurosis manages to fragment that reality (disconnection). Feeling therapy reestablishes that total reality. There is a unity of nature that happens only with connection.
Yeah, it not only defies "evolution", it defies all the authority figures' notions of structure because they run their psyches in a state of cerebral override so that their behavior conforms to the ideal that was introjected to override the Self, the person's authentic sense of what the person wants, to insure conformity to a social ideal, a social structure.
Only when feeling comes first does the "mind", the seat of interpretation, submit to the reality greater than itself and receive what has to be interpreted verbally. Only when the sensation is totally felt with all its intensity does feeling get the backing of "Chi", Earth force, as needed.
Having the correct interpretation insures rational behavior and having the real sensation insures the emotionality that will be sufficient to drive behavior that reflects that reality.
Janov doesn't use the term, but the process is a soul-function.
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 01:49 am |
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Roy wrote: ...it defies evolution—ideas after feelings, not before. Neurosis manages to fragment that reality (disconnection). Feeling therapy reestablishes that total reality. There is a unity of nature that happens only with connection.
Yeah, it not only defies "evolution", it defies all the authority figures' notions of structure because they run their psyches in a state of cerebral override so that their behavior conforms to the ideal that was introjected to override the Self, the person's authentic sense of what the person wants, to insure conformity to a social ideal, a social structure.
Only when feeling comes first does the "mind", the seat of interpretation, submit to the reality greater than itself and receive what has to be interpreted verbally. Only when the sensation is totally felt with all its intensity does feeling get the backing of "Chi", Earth force, as needed.
Having the correct interpretation insures rational behavior and having the real sensation insures the emotionality that will be sufficient to drive behavior that reflects that reality.
Janov doesn't use the term, but the process is a soul-function.
I think anytime you evoke over-the-top emotions you open the chance of activating something deep in the Self. The Primal Institute's medical director Dr. E. Michael Holden touched God and then blew an archetype gasket. The archetype protruded into his consciousness, he developed a huge inflation, and began making "meaningful" associations were none were justified. He was washed in the blood of the Lamb, totally healed, and then too much beyond mortal capacity to handle.
http://primal-page.com/holden.htm
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 02:32 am |
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Wow Phil ! What a read!!
Can't wait to hear Roy's take on this.
I am ready to go to a charismatic church after reading this one!
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 04:56 am |
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Oh, my God, Phil, thank you for that. How did you come across that? I would love to hear the story.
Yes, I had my own peak spiritual experience, the kind you read about in books, in isolation, in the middle of the second week.
I found the center of my psyche outside of my mind, and the rest of the process continued over the decades, just right out of Jung's books.
So, I took a look immediately at that link of yours, Phil, and I will have to take the time to read it all.
I will tell you that a close friend of mine at the Janov institute who was with me in Berkeley had some amazing stories about his girlfriend, a primaler, too.
She would go into a birth primal and then get into past lives. The therapists would stop her, saying it was a "psychotic break".
I don't believe it. My second primal therapy began about ten years ago. That therapist went through a whole course of the therapy and had no more symptoms.
Then one day he calls up his old therapist because all this stuff, pain, and distinct memories of past lives, that just started.
Interesting man. He was a professional opera singer on a very high level. The first time we talked on the phone I was listening to opera music on that now defunct Radio Internet station.
Like me, he accept the whole Jung + primal + past lives and ....
We should try to find this guy. I want to talk to him.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 01:38 am |
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QueenB wrote:
I am ready to go to a charismatic church after reading this one!
He would be glad to hear that, I think that was the purpose of Dr. Holden's message.
"What I'm proposing is holy primal therapy." Certainly gives food for thought.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 04:19 am |
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Sounds like a great book title Phil.
Holy Primal Therapy
by Dr. Ph. D. Been There
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 02:24 am |
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Jung knew God. It is a shame that Freud took the atheist track and damaged psychology ever since. Some Jesuit doctors practice spiritual psychiatry. They get referred psychiatric cases of a Spiritual nature that the secular doctors and psychiatric hospitals can't deal with. Young people, they fool around with necromancy and occult. Sometimes they get much much more than they bargain for and suddenly find themselves in deep tormenting doo-doo. They get taken to psychiatric hospitals where the doctors witness what is happening and call for the Jesuits to come take them away for specialized therapy.
Too bad Dr. Holden left the Primal Institute but didn't found one of his own.
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 04:40 am |
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I think I should look into contacting this guy.
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 11:23 am |
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He co-authored with Janov Primal Man: The New Consciousness in 1975 but that was prior to his conversion. I think he is now dead.
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