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Posted: Wed Sep 6th, 2006 03:16 pm |
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The God and prophet Jesus (the bringer of the truth) in Christianity is Love and the polar opposite of the PROFIT of Islam Muhamed (the fascist warrior) and Allah (the best deciever).
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Posted: Wed Sep 6th, 2006 07:57 pm |
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Thank you for the continued exposition, CW! The Islamists are exploiting every aspect of our Western Free Culture, especially that aspect of our prevailing human nature that wishes to think the best of everyone. That is a foolish endeavor. People are unique. To assume that any person one does not know well is "good" is to indulge in foolishness. One should be prepared to evaluate the character of our fellow men on a case-by-case basis before trusting them greatly. In our situation regarding Islam, to be realistic, we must reverse our paradigm, and assume that any Muslim that we deal with is a fundamentalist Islamist with genocide and violent jihad on their minds, unless we see evidence to the contrary.
The assumption that Muslims are mostly peaceful and that Islam is primarily a religion of peace as practiced in the 21st century, cannot ever be based upon the facts (because the facts strongly contradict this view) , it can only be based upon the type of wishful fantasizing that Pollyanna thinking engenders.
CW has delivered these revelations to us with bows and ribbons, all nicely packaged. This is a gift beyond price. Corvus's frustrated reaction is one of the surest signs to me that everything expressed has been exactly, preciesly and unequivocally dead on target.
Welcome to the 21st century, where the first alien life-form we confront is one from our own planet called "genus Homo Sapiens, Fascisticanis Vulgaris", and they are all afflicted with a progressive psychic disease that makes them hate human beings, which they do not consider themselves to be. They consider themselves, as did the aliens in War of the Worlds, so superior to the other sentient beings here, that all non-Muslims are to be trampled under foot or slaughtered like insects, just as the aliens slaughtered the Humans who stood against them.
In addressing individuals, a person who regards another human being who is simply trying to mind their own business as being worthy of murder or similar violence, is called a "psychopath". In Arab/Islamist cultures, as far as I know, the term "psychopath" does not exist. They call their psychopaths, sheik, Imam, Mullah and president.
I love peaceful people who call themselves Muslims as much as I love any other peaceful human beings. But Muslims cannot possibly fault non-Muslims for looking at them all suspiciously, in light of the massive evidence that Islam is in it's present state, a fertile ground for producing not normal human beings, but aliens who hate Humanity disguised as "pious adherents to a peaceful religion" .
The fundie- Islamists of today are peaceful adherents to their beliefs about as much as the pilots of HG Wells's tripods in War of the Worlds were about theirs.
There can be no peace with committed militants who consider "compromise" or " negotiation" to both be synonyms for "weakness", and whose only goal is the absolute, unchallenged sub-human supremacy sought by the reptile.
If two predatory reptiles are given adequate space to reproduce and flourish within the same territory, one will inevitably attack and try to destroy the other anyway, and will not stop until one or both of them are dead.
The spirit of the god that the militant jihaddist, world -domination-obsessed-fundie Muslims worship cannot be the spirit of a human being, it can only be the spirit of a vicious, sub-human reptile. Any god that loves slaughter and devastation more that peace, prosperity and harmonious coexistence with the environment (including other beings) cannot represent Humanity, but must be the emissaries of some life-form that wants to supplant Humanity with their own kind.
As is often the case in History, it is not efforts in the direction of pragmatic self-interest that generally create the most suffering (murders,wars etc.) for individuals or for nations, it's movements and wars started for supposedly lofty ideological or philosophical reasons (Nazism, Stalinism, Italian Fascism, Japanese Imperialism, Islamist world dominance) that are waged not for personal gain or improvement of the people of that nation, but some lofty abstract notion of "improving the world and making it better" (ie., "purifying or "correcting" it) in the name of some supposedly noble, supposedly selfless endeavor ( ie., bringing the world into line with the Will of Allah).
Some would drag us back to the Dark Ages, when the Rule of Law was non-existent, and virtually all acts, no matter how barbaric or needlessly cruel, were permitted, so long as the "reason" given for it was sanctified by some authority. IN such primitive cultures, it's not that mass murder is bad or wrong morally, it's that one must have a sanctified reason to torture others to death.
I note that this is an idea that is gaining favor with certain contemporary political factions in the U.S. . Most recently this has been seen demonstrated by the release of a movie in which the president of the U.S.( George Bush) is assassinated. The supporters and fans of that film have said that it's a "valuable commentary on the consequences for our policies in the War on Terror. Hmm. So let's see, what that means is that assassinating a president may indeed be "debatable" if the reason someone does it is compelling enough. Next we will hear that Zarqawi's cutting off of heads with dull knives is an "understandable reaction to his situation" that cannot be condemned.
Some of our citizens are apparently intent on dragging Humanity back to the ages where "all is permitted" and the respect for the Rule of Law, (that has helped to drag Humanity a long way out of the brtual Primal Pit from which we emerged), is to now be abandoned, simply because the Rule of Law does not permit one political faction that considers itself superior (fundie-Muslims, neo-Marixits/arch liberals), to usurp absolute power from the other.
In the West, we obey the rule of law. In fundie Islam and other regressive cultures, the Law is Made by Those in Power and is subject to constant change, purely as a matter of convenience for those in power who are unwilling to share it.
That is the essence of the War on Terrorism - a system that supports the Rule of Law, Freely Elected Representative Democracy (as per mostly the Greek system), v. Fundie Islam, a system which teaches extermination of the enemy and absolute domination of the World at any cost, including the annihilation of anything resembling a fair, just and sane the Rule of Law. This is the line of division between real Human Beings and humanoid animals who have simply learned to wear clothing and to speak. The acceptance of the Rule of Law over Rule-by-Edict of a non-elected Elite.
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Posted: Wed Sep 6th, 2006 08:21 pm |
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Good Essay PG. Wish I was as eloquent as you.
I would like to add that Islamic civilization reflects the teachings of deception and hatred and western civilization is a reflection of the teachings of Christ.
I would also like to add that "peaceful" Muslims are more dangerous than militants. Their insiduous tactics are devious.
Example:
http://www.janetsiddiqui.com/
http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/world_full_story.asp?service_id=2449
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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 06:15 am |
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Classic Woman wrote: Good Essay PG. Wish I was as eloquent as you.
Please remain as you are . . . I much rather read your means of posting than PG's.
No insult intended . . .
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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 05:01 pm |
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PG's posts would do extremely well if he used standard essay structures. Oxford University advises
Structuring and essay - 3 easy steps
Remember that you are writing an essay in order to give your opinion about something, so first:
· introduce your opinion and your reasons for holding it.
You must offer evidence as to why your opinion is valid, so next present:
· evidence for your opinion.
Finally you must show the scope of your opinion, and how it fits with other opinions, so:
· conclude your essay with a look at other people's ideas to show how your opinion fits with theirs.
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PSYCHO! Are you paying attention?

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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 06:49 pm |
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If they don't want a three-course meal, then they shouldn't order a three-course meal by engaging me on major topics. When I detect a deficiency of background or the need for elucidation in order to elevate the debate beyond the obvious or mundane, I present a primer for our readers. So then , at least they will be informed of something valuable trather than adventures in 'opinionology with no substantive stipulated data to form a base platform for exposition..
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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 06:57 pm |
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Psycho Gizmo wrote: If they don't want a three-course meal, then they shouldn't order a three-course meal by engaging me on major topics. When I detect a deficiency of background or the need for elucidation in order to elevate the debate beyond the obvious or mundane, I present a primer for our readers. So then , at least they will be informed of something valuable trather than adventures in 'opinionology with no substantive stipulated data to form a base platform for exposition..
Check your deficiency detector, i think it is miscalibrated... lol
Remember your audience! a bird, a fallen pope, a blonde, the Hulk, lurking canadian beavers...
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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 07:59 pm |
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Who gets to be the fallen pope ? Is that me or you? Or both of us.? Or am I the Hulk?
Outstanding visual as usual, Professore!
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Posted: Thu Sep 7th, 2006 08:36 pm |
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Roy wrote: Who gets to be the fallen pope ? Is that me or you? Or both of us.? Or am I the Hulk?
Outstanding visual as usual, Professore!
My avatar is from the "Battle Pope". The story is the Rapture came but the Pope was left behind! LOL Then Satan captured Archangel Michael. From earth the Pope begged God to allow him to redeem himself, so God in extremis from having one of his Archangels imprisoned by Satan told the pope to free Archangel Michael from Satan.
I remember Nocturne posting the cartoon of the Hulk.
Roy your avatar just doesn't easily fit into the scheme. What to do... hey! You had that stone phallus avatar a while back. Hahaha! Like one of the 4 kinds of people in Team America. 
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Posted: Fri Sep 8th, 2006 01:59 pm |
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Enough of being silly, on a serious note this chart does not tell a story of Victory

ever increasing attacks by insurgents on civies and government.
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Posted: Fri Sep 8th, 2006 05:57 pm |
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I know. At a certain point, you just have to get out and let them kill each other. We have done our part. We can sit back in Qatar and if someone messes with WMDs, come in and blow them off the planet.
Roy
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Posted: Sat Sep 9th, 2006 04:54 pm |
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Roy wrote: I know. At a certain point, you just have to get out and let them kill each other. We have done our part. We can sit back in Qatar and if someone messes with WMDs, come in and blow them off the planet.
Roy
Perhaps the time, the Heavens, is not yet ready to take a stand.
The Battle of Lapanto 1571 against the Islamic hordes fought by Pope Pius V's Holy League.

King John Sobieski relieved Vienna from a siege by militant Islamic hordes in 1683.

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Posted: Sat Sep 9th, 2006 06:07 pm |
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Dali . . .
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Posted: Sat Sep 9th, 2006 07:05 pm |
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The 4 horsemen....Roy, Corvus, Phil and PG.

Nocturne shall be the Lamb...
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Posted: Sat Sep 9th, 2006 10:16 pm |
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| I am not to be found in that picture, my brother Nocturne. Those pussies are using saddles. One unites with the horse and it consents to carry you willingly. Anything less is dishonorable.
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Posted: Sun Sep 10th, 2006 03:17 am |
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Psycho Gizmo wrote: I am not to be found in that picture, my brother Nocturne. Those pussies are using saddles. One unites with the horse and it consents to carry you willingly. Anything less is dishonorable.
Horses?!?!
something a little more hard core

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Posted: Sun Sep 10th, 2006 06:19 pm |
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Or this perhaps. Author Gene Wolfe's fearless destriers of the 118th Xenegie, Light Mounted Infantry. The horses can be twice the size of ours and they often stand upon hind legs in battle, striking out with genetically enhanced (or evolved!) hooves and teeth which are actually claws and fangs - sometimes tipped with stainless steel by surgery- although that is hardly necessary - the tips grow back. Far faster than machines, particularly at close distance or variable speeds.
and before Corvus or anyone else pipes up with derisive comments about the "saddle" Severian is using - that is a battle harness and pack, which is primarily reigns and stowage for gear/armor/weaponry and communication with his charge. Severian rode with only a blanket, pad and reigns-only (for the comfort of his charge) otherwise. Archetypes would hardly require stowage or reigns - since they are by definition, super natural beings with God-like powers. The Four Horseman's horses look glum to me, which betrays their master's infamy more than anything. Destriers (and mercenary armies) simply loooooove a good fight....
I am certainly like the Four Horsemen in those two regards, but only those.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11th, 2006 01:33 am |
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"If for a single moment I should go up among you, I would consume you." When the wrath of the Lord is unleashed and permission given the Destroyers will make no distinction between the Righteous and Wicked. "Except those days be shortened, there should no flesh be saved."
We must not forget the Holy Roman Ecclesiarchy Orders Militant of the Adepta Sororitas! The Sisters of Battle. Go Sisters and smite those Satanic Islamo rag-heads !

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Posted: Mon Sep 11th, 2006 02:40 am |
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The Christians will be thankful for people like myself when that day comes . . . 
A wicked strategist I am . . . and I am blind to wickedness and righteousness . . .Last edited on Mon Sep 11th, 2006 02:42 am by Corvus
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