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OBAMA wrong on Honduras
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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 04:29 pm

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http://blog.heritage.org/2009/06/30/krauthammer-obama-is-wrong/

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 Posted: Fri Jul 3rd, 2009 09:17 pm

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Pretty radical step.  It would be like Obama attempting to form a temporary congress to totally rewrite the US Constitution.  It is legal in Honduras to ask the people in referendum but would we want that to happen here - a total rewrite of our Constitution?  Can you imagine what crap politicians like Pelosi, Waxman, and Maxine Waters would turn it into?



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 Posted: Sun Jul 5th, 2009 11:49 pm

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The big merdone is now hitting the fan in Honduras.



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 Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 01:36 am

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The US justices of the Supreme Court and Congress must now wonderi if their legal rulings apply to the President.  If the US Supreme Court rules something Obama wants to do is definitely illegal, in agreement with Congress, and Obama with great publicity openly goes ahead anyway then he would be arrested too. Am I right? 



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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 03:36 am

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Obama may be right that the ex-prez of Honduras should not have been exiled, but that exiling was a gift, allowing him to avoid the humiliation of an arrest and a trial.

Everything cannot be perfect, but Obama doesn't get this unless it concerns something he wants done, as in make love not war with Ahmadinejad. So, he wants to say next to nothing about that problem.

He is weak. This is what weak bullies do. They insist on following the rules to lesser beings even when the apparent exception to the rule was right, whereas Obama can't get the difference between meddling in Iran for economic and political self-interest that is antithetical to the sovereignty and welfare of the Iranian people and when "meddling" is in our economic and political self-interest because it is in the interest of the Iranian people.

 I like my last statement very much. :cool::D;)



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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 07:22 pm

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Obama is also telling Israel what they can and can't do. Who made him emperor?

These Chicago thugs have no limits!

More questions, and this time some good questions.

While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question:

What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers.

It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?

A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible.
Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport. If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.



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 Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 11:39 pm

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A StratFor interview over the Obama trip to Russia. Very insightful. Just what about Poland?

I posted this here to point out the differences with O's treatment of the Honduras problem.

Evil people get respect and general ass-kissing. and good people get the boot.



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