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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 06:13 pm

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'Asians hate' column ignites firestorm at CU

I have seen racism from blacks, Asians, Latinos, all at times toward whites and at times toward each other, and I will forego telling those stories, but let is suffice it to say that I have heard my presence in an all black school in Philadelphia described as "we have white devil teacher today" to an act of abject discrimination at a gathering of more than ten thousand while an Asian American woman gave credit for the choreography at her show, her "showcase", to my ex-Alvin Ailey friend's assisstant because she was Asian and said nothing about him because, well, he was black.

All of that came after a dozen well-choreographed numbers that he had done which were about our racism and had been proceeded by the prominent Asian-American politicians of their day giving speeches about growing up in the US and their view of the "white devils" around them.

The evening in Los Angeles with my friend, the ex-Alvin Ailey dancer, was unbelievable, and I stll shake my head about it to this day. I sat there stunned while she got a standing ovation, and I knew the truth.

I never got any sense of this in Berkeley, but I did get some sense (and beyond) among more radical political Latinos and blacks that there was a racism in their attitude toward whites.

Obviously racism is not something that is inherent to being of European extraction. It would be racist to think that, but the microscope has been on us for a while, apparently well-deserved, but that unfortunately has blinded those who accuse us of a racial moat in our eyes of the same in their eyes.

I believe that a generation raised in a much less racist time is likely to feel less guilt and feel less like putting up with racism directed at whites.

And, I think that that is the reason that this guy has reacted this way in that column.

Tell me what you think.

An excerpt:


Then, last year, Karson was arrested and suspended after classmates reported that he said he was "angry enough to kill" during a heated discussion about the Virginia Tech shootings.

Published on the newspaper's Web site Monday, Karson's piece begins that he's noticed "some tension between the white students and the Asian students" at CU in the past year.

"There's never any outright conflict, but I notice little things," Karson wrote. "Like, Asians always seem surprised whenever I talk to them."
The author describes an incident at the CU Recreation Center in which "an Asian" apparently was confused about which racquetball court an errant ball belonged to.

"The Asian was so jaded by his experiences with the whitebread, brainless tree sloths of CU that even though three people had explained to him that he was trying to return the ball to the wrong court, it was inconceivable to him that we might be right," Karson wrote. "And when he looked into my eyes, it wasn't just irritation and disgust that I saw -- it was hate. Pure hate.

"They hate us all. And I say it's time we started hating them back."

Let me just say for the morons who might need this pointed out to them, that I am specifically against hating them back.




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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 06:42 pm

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When I actually went and read that column, it was very different that what I expected to read.

The writer talks about white racism toward Asians and is against it, but he tells the tale well of possible Asian racism/resentment toward whites as well.

If It's War The Asians Want

The article is a tasteless parody of a racist response to the attitude the Asian supposedly demonstrated toward him.

Wow. How things get turned around and hyped when we near the truth about humans in general. It could never be that we have met the enemy and he is us. :shock:


Since I transferred to CU last year, I've noticed some tension between the white students and the Asian students. There's never any outright conflict, but I notice little things. Like, Asians always seem surprised whenever I talk to them. They stare at me for a few seconds as though I must have made some mistake, and once they realize I'm intentionally speaking to them, they aren't always thrilled.

On the other hand, white people are quick to ridicule Asians. They have no problem with making demeaning remarks about their looks, mannerisms, and accents-things they would never say about black people.

So when an Asian refuses to make eye contact with me or dismisses me with a one-word sentence, I just say to myself, "Max, Asians are not evil cyborgs. They're human, just like you. And if you were a minority student in a sea of walnut-brained business majors and skiers, you'd be crabby, too."

But last week, I had an epiphany.

After my friend and I finished working our abs at the Rec Center, we decided to head upstairs to tighten our buns on the StairMaster. As we walked down the hallway, a rubber ball bounced out of one of the racquetball courts and landed at the feet of an Asian in front of us. He picked up the ball and leaned over the railing of the court nearest to him.

"Hey, that's not ours," I heard a guy call up from the court. The Asian stared down at him for a moment, and then held the ball out to him. "That's not ours," the guy said again.

Then another voice called out from a different court, "Hey, does anyone see a ball up there?"

The Asian looked over, confused.

"I think it goes to that court," I said, pointing to the one nearest to me.

The Asian stared at me blankly for another second, and then he looked back down into the court next to him and offered them the ball again.

"That's not our ball," the guy called up.

"Excuse me," I said. The Asian whipped his head around and scowled at me. "I think it goes to that court."

He paused a few seconds, and then he said, in a perfect American accent, "Okay," and tossed the ball into the court next to me.

That's when it hit me.

The Asian was so jaded by his experiences with the whitebread, brainless tree sloths of CU that even though three people had explained to him that he was trying to return the ball to the wrong court, it was inconceivable to him that we might be right.

And when he looked into my eyes, it wasn't just irritation and disgust that I saw-it was hate. Pure hate.

I'm such a fool for not realizing it sooner. I can't tell you how many times the Asians have treated me like a retarded weasel and I've forgiven them. But now I know that Asians are not just "a product of their environment," and their rudeness is not a "cultural misunderstanding."

They hate us all.

And I say it's time we started hating them back. That's right-no more "tolerance." No more "cultural sensitivity." No more "Mr. Pretend-I'm-Not-Racist."

It's time for war.

But we won't attack their bodies or minds. We will attack their souls.

The first step, or "Phase 1," is to find them all. Anyone who is interested in signing up to volunteer can do so by e-mailing me. Next Sunday at noon, we will all meet at Farrand Field. Each volunteer will be issued an extra-large butterfly net.

The hunt will then begin.

When I blow my whistle, we will scatter in every direction and catch as many Asians as possible. Make sure to pay special attention to the Rec Center, the UMC, the math and engineering buildings and Lollicup. If you're not sure if someone is an Asian, give them a calculus problem to do in their head. If they get it right, net 'em.

Captured Asians will be dragged to my apartment on the Hill and hog-tied. Once they're all secured in my living room, "Phase 2" will come into effect.

The Asians' reformation will begin with a 100-round beer pong tournament. They will listen to "It's a Small World" on repeat while they play.

When the tournament is finished, the Asians will then be forced to eat bad sushi from Hapa-with forks. When all the sushi is gone, they will be permitted to sleep for four hours, but the entire time I will shout through a megaphone, over and over, "Why didn't you make enough Wiis?!"

In the morning, the Asians will arrange themselves in rows, if they haven't naturally done so already. I will stand in front of them and hold up a card with the name of an emotion on it such as, "sad," or "surprised." The Asians must then make a facial expression to match the word on the card. Any Asian who remains deadpan or makes the wrong face will be tickled until they pee. When all Asians make the correct face at the same time, the game will end, but then they will be yelled at for being conformists.

The Asians will then be allowed to play "Dance Dance Revolution." However, the game will be rigged so that the Asians will receive no points, regardless of how robotically they dance.

Any Asian who tries to escape will be butterfly-netted and sent back to my apartment for another "Phase 2." Anyone caught speaking any language other than English will be kissed on the lips.

Once the Asian spirit has been broken, "Phase 3" will begin. Before we let the Asians go, we will go to their homes and redecorate them in a traditional American style. We will replace their rice cookers with George Foreman Grills, their green tea mochi with fried Snickers bars, and their rice rockets with Hummers. And booster seats.

When "Phase 3" is complete, the Asians will be released.

Now, I understand that this plan may upset some of you Asian readers, but the only other way to make peace would be to expel you. If you're smart, you'll turn yourselves in now, and it will all be over in a few days.

Besides, look on the bright side-we're not going to put you through anything we haven't put ourselves through, and we all turned out fine.

Contact Campus Press staff editor Max Karson at max.karson@colorado.edu




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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 06:57 pm

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And then there was this story about the NYC professor who planted her own noose to shift attention away from the plagiarism investigation going on about her.

So white racism is falsely alleged, an act of racism itself, to avoid the consequences of finding out something negative about yourself.

NYC Prof Accused of Plagiarism Keeps Job Feb 21 02:07 PM US/Eastern
By COLLEEN LONG
Associated Press Writer


NEW YORK (AP) - A Columbia University professor whose colleagues found a noose hanging from her office doorway will remain on staff despite being sanctioned for plagiarism, school officials said Thursday. The university's Teachers College announced Wednesday it had imposed "serious sanctions" against Madonna G. Constantine. The college said a lengthy investigation uncovered numerous instances in which she used others' work without attribution in papers she published in academic journals over the past five years.

Her lawyer said she had been targeted because of her race and hinted the sanctions and noose incident were linked, claims Teachers College spokeswoman Marcia Horowitz denied.

The inquiry into Constantine was launched in 2006, well before the noose—a symbol of lynchings in the Deep South—was discovered this past October, the school said.

Details of the sanctions were not released, but Horowitz said Constantine was not suspended and will remain a tenured professor.

Horowitz said the case was reviewed by an outside law firm as well as a panel of current and former professors at Teachers College.

Constantine, an education and psychology professor who has written extensively about race, said Wednesday that the accusations and the noose incident are part of efforts to intimidate her because she is black.

Her lawyer, Paul J. Giacomo Jr., said his client can prove her innocence and called the school's investigation "extremely underhanded from the beginning." He said he will appeal the sanctions.

In a written statement, Constantine said she had been subjected to "a conspiracy and witch hunt by certain current and former members of the Teachers College community."

Constantine's colleagues discovered the noose hanging from her office door. The incident roiled the Ivy League campus and gained national attention.

Police at the time ruled out any possibility that Constantine had hung the rope herself. A few weeks later, a swastika was discovered on the door of a Jewish professor at Teachers College. As of Thursday, the investigation was ongoing and there had been no arrests made in either incident, police said.



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 Posted: Sun Mar 2nd, 2008 05:57 am

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In my dad's HVAC company we have a chinese man who is a construction contractor, primarly for Chinese who are starting their own resteraunts or need work done on their houses. They refuse to do work through white guys and thus contract through asians who typically charge more, work less and in the case of our frontman, is a habitual gambler who even steals from his clients to feed his addiction. He contracts to us because we give a good deal and my Dad and he can ignore each other's short comings to get the job done.

When on the job we constantly have to watch our equipment and charge more in advance for the amount of tools that get stolen by the asian workers. They will even jack a ladder while your on a roof top. I remember one time my old man had to threaten to charge more just to get someone to grab a ladder for him to get back off a freezer.



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Hey, Helgi, how is it going? How is the work thing doing you? I hated doing "graveyard" and used to think how accurately that shift had been named? How is the kung-fu marital arts and your liver?



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Liver = good, kung fu = hiatus and graveyard = difficult but it pays pretty decent for the type of job it is. My company made news when word leaked to the press one of the nearby locations had criminals on the payroll. A bit exaggerated story but none the less it shows how poorly run things are. Fortunatly things stay pretty sain on this job and there is little excitement. I won't be staying there long. I am puting together a scheme for permanent residence over the pond right now and I got a little help. More info coming soon.



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