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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 05:50 am |
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In the last week I have noticed an abnormal flutter in my chest . . . much like butterflies in the stomach, mine are in my chest. Thankfully my wife the newly trained Cardiac Nurse listened to my heart and stated I am having VERY noticable PVC's. She said they were rather harmless, but of course I should get them checked out. I have never had this problem before and I am wondering if any of you have ever experienced such problems ?
Others who have PVC's
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/cardio/messages/34084.html
Last edited on Tue Jun 28th, 2005 05:51 am by Corvus
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 06:31 am |
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I used to donate blood component regularly for the extra cash and to help out cancer patients who need blood cells.In the course of that activity, my heart was monitored regularly every coupleof weeks by RNs. Occasionally I had an elevated, irregular heart beat. On my own, I learned to use bio-feedback to reduce and calm my heart rate. I also gave up coffee pretty much for good. Both things helped a lot.
I also gave up excessive stress - at least as large amounts of it as I could. I figured out that very little in my life (or anyone's) was really worth stressing out over. Either it works out or it doesn't, stressing out doesn't make things work out better or faster, I discovered. I also broke off an unhealthy intimate relationship that was plaguing me with negative emotions and feelings of guilt. That may have helped my heart rate and PVC's more than anything.
I think the caffeine and the stress were the biggest factors. Once I stopped drinking coffee, eating a lot of sugar and made sure my hydration stayed good, the heart-irregularities vanished and have never returned.
There are other ways to get some caffeine that do not include the semi-toxic enzymes that coffee contains. There are cardiac-unfreindly enzymes in coffee that may be more trouble than they are worth for people looking for a caffeine delivery system.
Overall, I'd say lose the caffeine if you haven't already and see how you feel. The bio-feedback might be helpful to if you feel anxious. It should include deep and/or yogic breathing, which is useful for soothing the autonomic nervous system without drugs. Most people do not breathe correctly and are therefore oxygen-starved much of the time, which adversely affects all sub-systems, including the circulatory/cardiac.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 06:31 am |
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Yes. I get them when I haven't been running and I decide to swim as far as I can under water.
Then I have them for a couple of days, and they do nothing but upset me.
I play sports fine and have no real problem.
You might try aerobic workouts to prevent this.
When the heart is well-oxygenated, then this contraction, the result of depolarization outside the norm, doesn't happen.
When you have a heart attack, some of the capillaries are blocked and if the band of Purkinjie fibers doesn't get its oxygen, then the fibers may fire off without being in synchronization.
Anyway, I bet your wife knows more than me, but, yes, I have experienced similar stuff.
Roy
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 07:46 am |
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It seems I must quit having my 2-3 cigs a night and my 1 Mt.Dew . . . as they are effecting not only my GERD (Thanks PG) and blood pressure, but now perhaps this (PVC's). As I type this I am having more PVC's . I have been exercising, but not as regularly as I should. My blood pressure has always been high, since early highschool when I was a big jock and did not smoke.
This growing old sucks . . . I see what you mean about life extension Roy . . . yet I still wonder if it's worth it . . . God how I enjoy my nightly smokes !
What is a good way to kick the caffeine habit ?
Smoking won't be hard, as I stopped about 2 months ago for about 3 weeks . . . then had a stressful night at work and gave in to a co-workers stash. Caffeine will be my biggest obstacle working 3rd shift . . .
Thanks for the sharing.
Last edited on Tue Jun 28th, 2005 02:16 pm by Corvus
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 08:35 am |
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I get about one every few weeks, started up a few years back, always come when I am laying back on the couch...
used to them now, at 1st a bit freaky.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 07:35 pm |
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Practical advice: Mr. Corvus, if you want the most concentrated workout available try weight-lifting. It is the best, (bar none) of any sport or activity in generating the positive benefits of exercise (increased mean oxygen level, HGF factor,metabolism, enhanced hormonal function, elevated energy-level, deeper sleep, enhanced general system function, subjective feelings of being more relaxed, focused and alert)! Especially if you are at work, weights will wake you up better than coffee or even amphetamines! Will your bosses allow it?
The universe palpitates, surges, filibrates, hesitates, flows, constricts, purges, clogs, unclogs, ruptures, mends and adapts, at the cellular/physiological level. Our bodies are more like Disneyland - never quite being finished, than like some autonomous, clock-like shiny machinery off an assembly-line. We're clumpy and squishy and our circuits work with oxygen-enabled chemical messengers and micro voltages in quantum tube-networks, instead of marco-switches and buttons. A huge soggy micro circuit that is always tearing itself down and rebuilding itself, activities rising to peaks and then falling to rest-periods. You're busy in there mister!
In all the ecology micro and macro, energies gather, are expended, renew, regenerate, polarities flip, electric potentials shift currents, nerves and neurons fire randomly, chemicals course and interact in the blood - proteins, acid/alkali, electrolytes, hormones, ketones, histamines, transporters, irritants, soporific, solvents, necrosis, contractant, relaxant, stimulant/depressives - it is a miraculous biochemical symphony in there boys.
Anyone looking for miracles need only analyze the synergistic elements of human homeostasis and should drop to their knees in awe that the damn thing works at all - much less for over seventy years of satisfaction even with almost constant abuse...
Yet, I say seriously to you Corvus, do not yield to an irrational fear of aging! It is an illusion, for the most part. As Roy pointed out accurately in the thread about seneseance (aging) it is being viewed by medical scientists more as a disease or syndrome than an inherent inevitability of human
life.
It may well be that when medical science creates profoundly advanced human longevity, they will also cure most of the maladies of age, since so many infirmities of those who are great in years are chronomorphic DNA-fomented system breakdowns.
We all resonate in all of the energy frequencies, electromagnetic, gravitational, kinetic. There is evidence that the human neural network functions with a quantum-circuit interacting with sub-micron organic nanotube lattices.
Tanget Fantasy: I has been suggested that if a connection exits between universes (vibrational planes) it may be through living vibrations rather than mechanical ones. Organic circuits are much better at adapting to real-time situations, so if there was an information-feedback between planes of any kind, it might propagate best through organic circuitry. It's wave-form might be "manna".
Stevie Wonder suggested something similar in the film/documentary The Secret Life of Plants - a must see for those looking for miracles, by the way. Life is more than within us. It is all around us, surging as free energy from system to system.
http://www.theseekerbooks.com/articles/secretlife.htm
http://www.raven1.net/seclife.htm
http://greenmuseum.org/content/work_index/img_id-613__prev_size-0__artist_id-94__work_id-149.html
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 11:42 pm |
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DON'T DIE CORVUS WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!
        
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Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2005 06:48 am |
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Especially if you are at work, weights will wake you up better than coffee or even amphetamines! Will your bosses allow it?
Actually I was utilizing the newly purchased weight system about a month ago, along with playing basketball and riding a stationary bike . . . all on my 1/2 hour break here at work.
When it become seasonly intolerably hot, I stopped because I despised being so sweaty for the rest of the shift . . . I just couldn't cool off afterwards. But I guess I should bring a change of clothes and just suck it up . . . excuses are my worst enemy.
Thanks for the tips, youall.
Last edited on Wed Jun 29th, 2005 06:50 am by Corvus
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