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I had to listen to that for a music class
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Posted: Fri Aug 11th, 2006 11:43 pm |
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I just had a thought. I have been accused of having a vendetta against my ex boyfriend/fiance and that is why I bash Islam so much. I would like to clear that up. First of all, when we broke up, it was my decision and I broke up with him, so it was him who felt hurt, not me. Second of all he was a very nice man to me and never did anything harmful to me at all, so how could I be angry at him? Third of all, we parted on good terms and even though he is a muslim, I know him deeply and can not hold him responsible for being a victim of this evil cult he was born into. I do speak with him on a friendship level maybe once or twice a year, although he is not in the US and will never be back.
I only am exposing Islam due to the loyalty I hold to my people and all other non muslims in the world. I am a protector by nature. I abhor and deplore innocent and non suspecting people being abused and taken advantage of, and that is my pure motivation.
Just to set the record straight. People have accused me of everything under the sun, but this is the honest to God truth.
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classic woman wrote: Roy wrote: Amazing posting, CW! Your knowledle is awesome.
What comes to mind is an old State Dep't saying about the Russians: "You can take the communist out of the Russian, but you can't take the Russian out of the communist".
So, ethnic identity is realer than political/ideological identity. And I pray the same is true for the Arabs, namely that : "You can take the Muslim out of the Arab, but you can't take the Arab out of the Muslim".
It seems to me that the Muslim religion has given certain fanatics a rationalization for behavior that is not acceptable.
Yes, CW, you are right. Christian atrocities are the result of us not living up to Christ's teaching, whereas I am now inclined to agree with you that Mohammed's teachings itself are the problem.
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Please don't ever forget about the Arab Christians. They are our brothers im Christ and some of the nicest people. We can get along with them because our foundations and spirit are the same. They have just been stuck in the 7th century with their muslim oppressors.
If you want to know which Arab is a Muslim or Christian, please act stupid and ask the Arab to tell you about Islam. Pretend you know nothing. If he speaks nicely of Muhamed and Islam, he is a Muslim and your arch enemy. If he speaks about Muhamed like he was an filthy totalitarian dicator and murderous butcher, that would be an Arab Christian and your staunch friend and ally.
It also relinguishes any racism guilt you may be struggling with. It is not Arabs I don't like, it is Islam and whoever is a carrier be it white, black, vietnamese, chinese, or Arab.
The other important thing to me is not the violent muslims (mujahjadeen). It is Quiet Islam that creeps up behind us as I posted earlier the 20 point plan for Islam to take over the US.
CW,
What branch of Islam are you speaking about here . . . Different sects of Islam view Muhammad differently ?
Are Shiite and Sunni equally evil . . . and what about the sects/tribes with in each faction.
My lord, the world is full of evil people if no Muslim can be trusted . . . 
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Seems to me the Muslims are still fighting with the ghosts of the Crusades . . . while it become economically burdensome for the Christan "Church" to continue conversion of people and lands . . . and Christians matured in their religious endeavours (in my opinion became thankfully introverted and self fulfilling). Islam remained a bruised and beaten child who's Shadow became the governing aspect of it's religious and cultural persona, very extroverted in it's approach if you examine it closely.
I would compare what happened with Islam, as the very same thing that happened to Blacks in America . . . both Islamics and Blacks have become hyper extroverted . . . as a defense mechanism of sorts.
What do we do to help them look inward at their shadows . . . to own this hate/anger. Continued American Crusades are surely not going to solve the problem . . . though I would agree that they are necessary to keep the hyper extroverted Islamic fanatics on the defensive, instead of offensive. I would prefer to keep the battle in their back yard, but this cycle will never cease then.
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I really don't think "training" everyone you meet to not trust a Muslim is the answer . . . as it seems very Old Testament. Though I guess fanatical Muslims are using the same approach, and it's best to fight fire with fire, ehh ?
In the end that does not seem very Christan . . . 
Yes, CW, you are right. Christian atrocities are the result of us not living up to Christ's teaching, whereas I am now inclined to agree with you that Mohammed's teachings itself are the problem. -Roy
as are Christ's . . .
Shame on Me.
Yes, it is the Holy Spirit that neutralizes hate. That comes from Christianity. You should experience the black heart of Muslims.
Creepy. - Classic Woman
Contridictions are just as Creepy to me . . .
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The difference between the old guards of the Japanese prison camp and Islamo-fascists is that the old guard have repented.
They can be forgiven. Maybe we can "forgive in advance" the Islamo-fascists, but we have to fight them.
Your objection is too not too clever. It is sophomoric. You don't get content in context.
What is your explanation of what is happening in the Mid and Near East? Is it really all the fault of the West that planted a country named "Israel" in their midst?
Does that explain the Arab Brotherhood, Saddam Hussein, Hezbollah, the Sunni-Shiite warring over the centuries, the repression of women, the Taliban, and the choice of flying planes into the WTC to protest our troops being in Mecca?
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Roy wrote: The difference between the old guards of the Japanese prison camp and Islamo-fascists is that the old guard have repented.
They can be forgiven. Maybe we can "forgive in advance" the Islamo-fascists, but we have to fight them.
Your objection is too not too clever. It is sophomoric. You don't get content in context.
What is your explanation of what is happening in the Mid and Near East? Is it really all the fault of the West that planted a country named "Israel" in their midst?
Does that explain the Arab Brotherhood, Saddam Hussein, Hezbollah, the Sunni-Shiite warring over the centuries, the repression of women, the Taliban, and the choice of flying planes into the WTC to protest our troops being in Mecca?
Roy
Thanks for the insult . . . I'm sorry to be too sophmoric.
You're assuming because I don't agree with CW, that I am of the "other" camp and lend myself to their opinions . . . to me that is "sophmoric" . . .
Cheers Buddy . . .
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Corvus, I was going to answer you except I understand where your loyalty lies already.
Number one, correct me if I am wrong, but you have not studied Islam and don't speak arabic? Nor have you lived amongst them for an extended period of time? Hmmm....I would then have to presume that you are are only here to insult me and argue with me.
However, Corvus, the very same things you are asking me now, I asked myself many years ago when I was still CLUELESS.
When you taste the evil of Islam yourself, let me know, I am sure you will have changed your attitudes and been more interested in protecting non muslims than you are in protecting muslims. Are you are muslim by the way?
If you are not, I am sure they will be knocking on your door soon. You smell like a real good attorney for them.
Muhamed couldn't find his way to Medina, he asked a Christian to show him the way. The Christian (good samaratin) showed him the way as requested and once they arrrived in Medina, he killed the Christian.
I ask you Corvus please could you write an essay in defense of Nazi's and Hitler so that you won't be in my way? I really don't want to spend time arguing with someone who does not understand Islam comprehensively.
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You're assuming because I don't agree with CW, that I am of the "other" camp and lend myself to their opinions . . . to me that is "sophmoric" . . .
Yes, Corvus. It is sophomoric not to have a camp you belong to because you refuse to take a stand.
Your data is your desire to be above it all, but, in reality, you have no data with which to refute CW. So, you flee. You haven't watched the speeches in the film "Obsession" about Islam's hatred of the West.
You, Mr C, are an introverted feeler, if I am not mistaken. You want to judge people to see if they are acting in good conscience, a noble calling.
So you don't concern yourself with the facts of the case, just the characters of the case, and you look for a "reason" that CW might not like Muslims based on a history of seeking love in the culture.
But you have reasoned without reasoning here, Corvus. You have to compare facts with behavior to assume that the behavior of someone is off.
CW's reasoning about Islam has been substantiated by what I have seen of "Obsession" and what I have read about Islam because of her.
So, if you think she has a "problem" about Islam, then you have to demonstrate her to be wrong objectively, and then conclude that her then prejudiced reporting is the result of that.
But you have flown too fast. In an incompletely objective state of mind, and therefore a partially biased state of mind, you have decided that CW is wrong. But based on what evidence?
I have had countless areguments in my life with people that hadn't read or hadn't understand Jung, Janov, Reich, Castaneda, or who thought nuns in Catholic schools had taught me that Jews were Christ-kilers and so on.
What are the facts? Where is the evidence? It ain't there. And, worse, they refuse to accept the evidence when presented. They are, in effect, members of the crowd at the Tower of Pisa. Galileo drops the heavy ball and the light ball simulatneously to see if it is true that "heavy balls falls faster". It isn't. But they refuse to get it.
Half the Jungsters went around glued to their own point of view of Jung touting his fascism, racism, sexism while the other half refused to accept that Jung did dabble in the Occult and accepted ESP, telepathy, pre-cognition, omens and signs.
Believe what you want to believe, but have evidence for it, please.
Now, I understand you , Mr C, not to be "of the other side". But what side are you on? What actions towards Islam's hostility to the West's democratic ideals do you espouse?
More importantly, do you recognize Islam's hostility to democracy as being an inherent part of the religion?
Yes, the popes used to say, "Freedom of religion in Protestant countries, but no freedom of religion in Catholic ones!" Yes, they used to say that.
But, to no avail. Christianity's democratic values trumped authoritarian parochialism. The days of French Protestants being cut down by Catholics are over with.
And those statements, made near the end of the 19th century, are a far cry from what I have been watching in the film, "Obsession".
The Christian values' compatibility with democracy have left us with only one spot where Protestants and Catholics war against each other: Northern Ireland.
So, Mr C, please feel free to challenge CW or anyone else here with facts and observations based on facts.
But, stop assuming that when another Crow named "CW" returns from her flight in Islam World, that her reporting is off base. That is, unless you can prove her to be wrong.
And that, my friend, is the difference between CW and Marie. Marie also makes good points, but there is no dialogue possible. Not the case here with CW.
It has been our politically correct blinders, our Vietnam-Civil Rights Era bad conscience at work with an anima-possessed Media trying to tell us that we only have enemies if we are bad. Geez, and their problem with us relates to bad feelings about us from the time of the Crusades! SHIT! Clinton himself, anima-possessed Rock Star of the Left with women of the Left ready to do a "Johston on Spotworth" manuever on him, pronounced that the Crusades were the problem! Based on what horsemerde?
Jesus, how psychotic!
But, as I have just said, if you, Mr C, can prove her statements to be wrong in any way, please go ahead and do it.
But making judgments about what is creepy when you could have asked CW if she is in contradiction, that assumes you already know the answers to questions you haven't even asked, such as:
What exactly are we dealing with when we deal with Islam?
Roy
PS My take is that CW's family, as a result of their suffering at the hands of the Japanese, has a kind of psychic detector about when the kind of evil that they experienced in WWII has come around again. Last edited on Sat Aug 12th, 2006 09:23 pm by Roy
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Posted: Sat Aug 12th, 2006 06:57 pm |
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Corvus, and all the rest of us,
You should see this film,
I described it in some detail in the other thread.
The fact is that before WWII, much the same debate went on about how to deal with the Nazis.
Now, there were a lot of German-American citizens in the US and a lot of German immigrants here as well. Dittos for Italians and Italian-Americans.
They had divided loyalties.
My roomate's grandfather sent Mussolini his gold watch when Mussolini requested gold from Italians at home and abroad to finance his wars, which like the Muslims's now, were an attempt to restore a Golden Age of a former empire, the Roman one.
Ships were always being sabotaged by Italian longshoremen who supported Mussolini.
"Lucky" Luciano, Mafia king-pin, made the deal from prison: for getting the Mafia- and Italian-dominated unions to stop sabotaging the ships sending war materials, food and fuel to Britain, he got to be released to go to Italy at the end of the war.
Many Germans and Italians ended up in camps just like the Japanese, but in our spasm of politically correct historical thinking, we only talk about the Japanese, and we talk about it as if it were the greatest crime against humanity ever committed.
The truth is that my friend's Japanese-American wife's family were freed from the camp to go to Minnesota. She said anyone could have done that.
So, this whole belief that everyone here is loyal to the US is just plain nonsense, something that can be verified historically.
I believe firmly that many, not most, but many, of Islamic people here are candidtates for being considered divided in their loyalties in a similar fashion.
Why should they be any different than many Germans and Italians in WWII? And, given that Muslims who are British citizens, even of third-generation in the UK, have been responsible for recent acts of terror or its planning in the UK, how can we not come to the conclusion that the situation is the same here in the US?
Watcha gonna do with this one, Feathered Friend?
Roy
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I just love how the Left belittles this terrorist plot uncovered in England. And scorn the Republicans for making it an issue and some Left-wingers even suggest it is a neo-con plot to scare everyone into making the USA a dictatorship.
Hmmm, a terror warning in August?! Sounds familiar... like, 5 years ago or something someone handed the FBI a piece of paper that suggested some Osama guy was planning on doing something bad.
Of course, you have to believe the official story of 9/11 to be scared of that one...
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Some of the liberal people I work with are looking really disturbed at work these days. Since I never debate or flaunt my political biases while working, I have been privy to some of their moods and deeper thoughts. There is a sense of desperation and utter desolation in some of them that is shocking. More than just political notions seem to be at stake in resolving their inherently-subjective (overly-cerebral) world view into something coherent with reality.
I even cautioned one of my conservative, happy, strong coworkers not to torment one of the most afflicted of the far-leftists with reminders of reality. I am concerned that some of them may be at the breaking-point. The anti-traditionalists are in crisis of soul and situation.
Despite my caution, my partner could not help posting a large copy of the image below on one of the kook's "Kookboard" (a bulletin board out side his office that serves as a secular alter to his unecessary, psychotic hatred of his own conservative inner-self). People are annoyed by disagreements. But they generally reserve venomous hatred for those who present some repressed aspect of themselves that they don't want to face.
Psychological Researcher Menninger identified one rational coping strategy for a lapse of emotional tolerance for extant conditions as, "withdrawal and return", also known among initiates as the "Way of the Sage". Walt Whitman did it, as did Thoreau, Henry James and Siddartha. Thus one may coexist with those of starkly opposite opinions without being emotionally overwhelmed by the input.
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Excellent. Heheh I stole your pic.
Here is some napalm for the nuclear fires of victory...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162795,00.html
Tancredo: If They Nuke Us, Bomb Mecca
DENVER — A Colorado congressman told a radio show host that the U.S. could "take out" Islamic holy sites if Muslim fundamentalist terrorists attacked the country with nuclear weapons.
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Corvus wrote: classic woman wrote: Roy wrote: Amazing posting, CW! Your knowledle is awesome.
What comes to mind is an old State Dep't saying about the Russians: "You can take the communist out of the Russian, but you can't take the Russian out of the communist".
So, ethnic identity is realer than political/ideological identity. And I pray the same is true for the Arabs, namely that : "You can take the Muslim out of the Arab, but you can't take the Arab out of the Muslim".
It seems to me that the Muslim religion has given certain fanatics a rationalization for behavior that is not acceptable.
Yes, CW, you are right. Christian atrocities are the result of us not living up to Christ's teaching, whereas I am now inclined to agree with you that Mohammed's teachings itself are the problem.
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Please don't ever forget about the Arab Christians. They are our brothers im Christ and some of the nicest people. We can get along with them because our foundations and spirit are the same. They have just been stuck in the 7th century with their muslim oppressors.
If you want to know which Arab is a Muslim or Christian, please act stupid and ask the Arab to tell you about Islam. Pretend you know nothing. If he speaks nicely of Muhamed and Islam, he is a Muslim and your arch enemy. If he speaks about Muhamed like he was an filthy totalitarian dicator and murderous butcher, that would be an Arab Christian and your staunch friend and ally.
It also relinguishes any racism guilt you may be struggling with. It is not Arabs I don't like, it is Islam and whoever is a carrier be it white, black, vietnamese, chinese, or Arab.
The other important thing to me is not the violent muslims (mujahjadeen). It is Quiet Islam that creeps up behind us as I posted earlier the 20 point plan for Islam to take over the US.
CW,
What branch of Islam are you speaking about here . . . Different sects of Islam view Muhammad differently ?
Are Shiite and Sunni equally evil . . . and what about the sects/tribes with in each faction.
My lord, the world is full of evil people if no Muslim can be trusted . . .
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Seems to me the Muslims are still fighting with the ghosts of the Crusades . . . while it become economically burdensome for the Christan "Church" to continue conversion of people and lands . . . and Christians matured in their religious endeavours (in my opinion became thankfully introverted and self fulfilling). Islam remained a bruised and beaten child who's Shadow became the governing aspect of it's religious and cultural persona, very extroverted in it's approach if you examine it closely.
I would compare what happened with Islam, as the very same thing that happened to Blacks in America . . . both Islamics and Blacks have become hyper extroverted . . . as a defense mechanism of sorts.
What do we do to help them look inward at their shadows . . . to own this hate/anger. Continued American Crusades are surely not going to solve the problem . . . though I would agree that they are necessary to keep the hyper extroverted Islamic fanatics on the defensive, instead of offensive. I would prefer to keep the battle in their back yard, but this cycle will never cease then.
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CW,
I really don't think "training" everyone you meet to not trust a Muslim is the answer . . . as it seems very Old Testament. Though I guess fanatical Muslims are using the same approach, and it's best to fight fire with fire, ehh ?
In the end that does not seem very Christan . . .
Yes, CW, you are right. Christian atrocities are the result of us not living up to Christ's teaching, whereas I am now inclined to agree with you that Mohammed's teachings itself are the problem. -Roy
as are Christ's . . .
Shame on Me.
Yes, it is the Holy Spirit that neutralizes hate. That comes from Christianity. You should experience the black heart of Muslims.
Creepy. - Classic Woman
Contridictions are just as Creepy to me . . .
I don't see any contradiction at all. Who said I hate muslims? I never said it once. I have the right to tell the truth, you call it hate, I call it truth. Sorry sir, but if I run into a burgler, should I not say this guy wants to steal my stuff? Or how about a rapist, should I not scream out that I am being raped? Is that hatred? I have a right to scream out in defense of my country, my people and expose the danger to us all.
By the way Mr. C, I am originally from the Netherlands. I don't know if you are aware that europeans speak in very direct and blunt ways. Ah, cultural differences you see. So you will attack a european for their communication style but you will defend a muslim because he is quiet and sneaky?
Here is the lovely multiculturalism the liberals support so much. I am afraid they scream "MULTICULTURALISM" but they certainly don't know even what it is nonetheless how to handle it when faced with it. Let's attack the direct europeans because they speak their mind!!!! But let's support the murderous muslims!!!!
Very logical.
Lastly, what branch of Islam do you ask? What sect? I will not answer a hostille questions. I am here for those who truly have interest and ask questions because they want to know. Not because they want to argue with me. I will discuss it only with people who are open to learning, not attacking.
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CW,
Where and when exactly did I attack you . . . I could smell your wounds from miles away. I don't peck at meat until it's already dead. Hence the "*********"
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To condemn a entire culture, that of Islam . . . is "Sophomoric". I have never suggested that none of you are wrong . . . I only speak of flaws, not corrections. I respect Christians, but I don't respect those Christians who disregard Christ's most important teachings. Why in the fuck call yourself a Christian, if you are going to suggest that no Muslim can be trusted. I can't believe the hypocrisy and rationalizations for the hypocrisy. I would have been fine with your statements if you would not have started throwing around the word Christian and stacking a claim into something no freaking human could ever live up to.
In all honesty it's quite fucking Sophomoric for all of you to assume that I trust a mother fucking person on this planet, but that does not mean I have to live in a state of fear.
Who for years cawed about human nature and the animal that exists in all of us, humm ?
Who is the person that mistrusts just about everyone on the Internet . . . in fact poor Nocturne has suffered the brunt of my mistrust . . .
Don't fucking lecture me about being naive to the world and living in a shell . . . you all live in shells, we all do . . . why do you all think you know better than the next crustacean, as to what the "real" world is like.
The fear that stagnates in this forum is not as bad as the liberal fear at the lifeboat (hence my Thank You Note), but it fumes from the same carcass . . . and I just can't pass up rotting meat.
CW, this post is not really directed at you . . . as it is to certain history. Your statements just woke a reactive side, the same defensive part of my personality that causes you to mistrust Muslims.
You are just another intelligent person who will never understand where I am coming from . . . because I communicate as a person from another time.
I can no longer hang around humans . . . they are all just a bunch of savages.
I will finish the discussion started, and "not fly off" . . . but once the record starts to skip I am finished with everyone here and there . . . it's just time to end it. I no longer will be a catalyst for dysfunction in myself and others. It's finally become totally obvious that I belong alone.
Humans are simply a waste of my time . . . and though i am not as intelligent and some of you . . . I do regard my perceptions to be as sound as any of yours. And guess what, so does that terrorist you love to hate.
We are all the same.
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CW . . . I find it a total turn off for a person to start justifying their truth upon others through the use of statements like . . .
*I lived in there . . . I fuck them . . . I ate with them*. . . because in the end so have "I". We are all humans and bound the same fucking collective (yea remeber that Sophmoric Jung). . . I have met terrorists, they have bloody my body on the school yard . . . sold me bad drugs in college . . . you don't have to be Islamic to be a terrorist . . . so don't condemn a whole fucking culture. Condemn the human race.
Excuse my use of fucking . . . it felt like the Christian word to use.
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Corvus. You haven't made a single substantive argument against her. You haven't seen the documentary.
Look, I like you and don't want to get into it with you. You are out of line with Classic Woman.
I could tell you everything wrong with Italy. I lived there ten years. I wouldn't believe me if I had a way to listen to me who knows now what the Italians are about.
Hell, so how are you going to talk about her wounds? What wounds?
Is Walied What's-his-name, ex-PLO terrorist who was in the documentary and an actual friend of CW, making it all up when he agrees in the documentary about everything she has said here?
You are going to have to lay off psycho-analyzing CW. If you want to disagree with a point, then find specific evidence of something wrong. Otherwise you are out of line to attack her because of her well-argued and substantiated points.
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Corvus wrote: CW,
Where and when exactly did I attack you . . . I could smell your wounds from miles away. I don't peck at meat until it's already dead. Hence the "*********"
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To condemn a entire culture, that of Islam . . . is "Sophomoric". I have never suggested that none of you are wrong . . . I only speak of flaws, not corrections. I respect Christians, but I don't respect those Christians who disregard Christ's most important teachings. Why in the fuck call yourself a Christian, if you are going to suggest that no Muslim can be trusted. I can't believe the hypocrisy and rationalizations for the hypocrisy. I would have been fine with your statements if you would not have started throwing around the word Christian and stacking a claim into something no freaking human could ever live up to.
In all honesty it's quite fucking Sophomoric for all of you to assume that I trust a mother fucking person on this planet, but that does not mean I have to live in a state of fear.
Who for years cawed about human nature and the animal that exists in all of us, humm ?
Who is the person that mistrusts just about everyone on the Internet . . . in fact poor Nocturne has suffered the brunt of my mistrust . . .
Don't fucking lecture me about being naive to the world and living in a shell . . . you all live in shells, we all do . . . why do you all think you know better than the next crustacean, as to what the "real" world is like.
The fear that stagnates in this forum is not as bad as the liberal fear at the lifeboat (hence my Thank You Note), but it fumes from the same carcass . . . and I just can't pass up rotting meat.
CW, this post is not really directed at you . . . as it is to certain history. Your statements just woke a reactive side, the same defensive part of my personality that causes you to mistrust Muslims.
You are just another intelligent person who will never understand where I am coming from . . . because I communicate as a person from another time.
I can no longer hang around humans . . . they are all just a bunch of savages.
I will finish the discussion started, and "not fly off" . . . but once the record starts to skip I am finished with everyone here and there . . . it's just time to end it. I no longer will be a catalyst for dysfunction in myself and others. It's finally become totally obvious that I belong alone.
Humans are simply a waste of my time . . . and though i am not as intelligent and some of you . . . I do regard my perceptions to be as sound as any of yours. And guess what, so does that terrorist you love to hate.
We are all the same.
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CW . . . I find it a total turn off for a person to start justifying their truth upon others through the use of statements like . . .
*I lived in there . . . I fuck them . . . I ate with them*. . . because in the end so have "I". We are all humans and bound the same fucking collective (yea remeber that Sophmoric Jung). . . I have met terrorists, they have bloody my body on the school yard . . . sold me bad drugs in college . . . you don't have to be Islamic to be a terrorist . . . so don't condemn a whole fucking culture. Condemn the human race.
Excuse my use of fucking . . . it felt like the Christian word to use.
I am sorry I disturbed your dream world. There is no such thing as individualism in Islam. It is illegal. The loyalty is to the tribe, not to those who are nice to them.
Study Islam so that you can have facts behind you. Then we can talk.
Have you watched the middle eastern public television on the Media Thread here? Go through all of it, see what you have been missing.
Mashallah.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13th, 2006 10:51 am |
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Muslim attitude:
Muslim's Object
They object and then justify violence, or "explain" it.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/world/europe/13muslims.html?ref=world
Muslims consider themselves Muslims first and British second! Surprise. Suprise.
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Roy wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/13/world/europe/13muslims.html?ref=world
Muslims consider themselves Muslims first and British second! Surprise. Suprise.
Roy
Thanks for the link. That would not be limited to the UK. Loyalty is first to Islam as the Qu'ran orders them to emanicpate themselves from their own parents if their parents are practicing shirk (denying Islamic thoughts and duties).
Islamic loyalty:
To Islam
To the tribe
To the family
Individiual has no rights
Western loyalty:
To individual
To family
To country
One thing that the British have also just discovered is that their middle east foreign policy really is not the problem. The problem not only in Britian, but in the west, is that the muslim refugees are the trouble makers from their home countries. The peaceful muslims in the middle east never make problems and are still living there. The trouble makers for the middle eastern governments are the ones who were persecuted and kicked out (not for no reason) and now reside in the west with the freedom to make even more trouble as there are no dictators in the west to keep them in line. Our education system, freedom and democracy empower them.
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And like the wankers (British slang for, " a person who is easily led or influenced") that they are, the far-leftists, being without any strong cultural or traditional values themselves, are imitating this aspect of Islam because, like Woody Allen's character, "Zelig", they have no strong moral identity of their own!!
In an interview recently, the increasingly-senile leftist traitor/journalist Mike Wallace revealed this "Zelig syndrome". He was asked, "If you were a reporter on the scene with terrorists and you came across information that they were about to strike an American target, would you inform them so they could avoid the attack?"
Wallace answered, "No."
Interviewer, incredulous, "Why not !?!"
Wallace, in that dead, nearly-emotionless, robotic monotone that liberals seem locked into most of the time, replied, "Because I'm a journalist first and a U.S. citizen second."
Yep! That is a direct verbatim quote from the former journalistr Mike Wallace. Talk about getting it ass-backwards! When he is covering a terrorist, he must also behave like a terrorist? The Zelig Syndrome by a senile has-been, whose own son doesn't take him seriously as a journalist anymore (Fox News', Chris Wallace).
"Ich bein ein terrorist!" - Mike Wallace of al-CBS News
So anyone who had any remaining illusions about where the loyalties of far-leftist journalists lie, it's clear now. Leftist journalists are far more concerned with serving the needs of their own than in being good citizens of the U.S. or the World. Exactly as Mike Wallace just said. And they are not afraid to let Americans be slaughtered by terrorists to defend that cowardly, amoral, disaffiliated position. How laudable! How evolved and civilized. F*cking neo-Marxist journalist/traitors don't even bother denying it anymore, instead they seem sneeringly proud of being trembling cowards and Islamo-fascist terrorist-supporters now.
"Just act proudly about that which you ought rightly to be ashamed. It works every time!" Colonel Korn from "Catch-22"
The only thing that could cause me to forgive that type of horribly unpatriotic statement would be to document the fact that Wallace is dying of Alzheimer's disease and his brain was rotten when he said it. And even then, it does not excuse the statement itself, which is wholly an admission of infamy. Utterly inexcusable statement. Explainable (senility, insanity, gross stupidity) perhaps, but attrocious nonetheless.
At this point, pending his mitigating neural rot, I just I hope that Mike Wallace lives long enough to be hit by a bus or gets some type of lingering, horrible fatal illness very soon.
Maybe he wants to die but being a self-admitted coward, he doesn't have the guts to kill himself. So he is trying to commit suicide by "rightest assassin". Wallace wants to die, and he's trying to piss of some patriot enough to whack him, so he doesn't' have to do it himself. It's his own version of being a suicide bomber. He could solve his own problem and cause PR damage to the right at the same time. Martyrdom for the Holy Cause of anti-Conservative, anti-traditionalist journalism. Wallace will be the first to start the neo-Marxist journalistic jihad against non-Stalinists, even those who are fellow Americans. Death to American Conservatives! Death to American Traditionalists! Long live the Stalinistic Journalistic Jihad and the Martyrs of Dan Rather!
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