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Increasing presence and movement of the Holy Spirit
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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 05:02 am

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Official pilgrimages to Santiago now fifty times that of twenty years ago:

1986  2,491  
1987  2,905  
1988  3,501  
1989 (Pope's visit)  5,760  
1990  4,918  
1991  7,274  
1992  9,764  
1993 (Holy Year) 99,439  
1994 15,863  
1995 19,821  
1996 23,218      
1997 25,179 
1998 30,126
1999(Holy Year) 154,613
2000 (Jubilee Year) 55,004
2001 61,418
2002 68,952
2003 74,614
2004 (Holy Year) 179,944 
2005 93,924 
2006 100,377
2007 114,026


http://www.csj.org.uk/present.htm



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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 11:30 pm

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This is the third age of Joachim di Fiore, the monk who propounded the idea that the Age of the Father was succeeded by the Age of the Son, to be succeeded, beginning in his time, by the Age of the Spirit, where we would have direct contact with the Spirit.

I have a whole set of coincidences about this. I will write about them when I get back from work.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 04:58 pm

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 Posted: Fri Sep 18th, 2009 01:38 pm

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Regional movement of the Holy Spirit. Almost the entire country, every citizen, of Wales was seized with the Holy Spirit.

"Was like a mighty tornado. The Spirit of God swept across the land until mountains and valleys, cities and villages were filled with the mighty manifestations of God. Churches were crowded and meetings went on day and night. Prayer, singing and testimonies would sweep over congregations in torrents and hundreds turned to Christ. Never in the history of Wales had such indescribable scenes been witnessed."








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I finally got around to watching the whole video. Very good.

Gurdjeiff and Ouspensky talk about various times in history when groups had such experiences, when prayers that seem to have little effect now had an amazing effect.

What I see is that the population of that ares, a rural area, by the way, not a city, all reached a certain spiritual plateau at about the same time.  That is what allowed this experience.

The negative secular rationalist explanation is that a similar kind of hysteria was reached in a population of similars.

Personally, I opt for the first explanation.

Even the Transcendentalists in 19th century US had a group that had these experiences together.

The Quaker meeting is supposed to generate that as well.



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You can read the full account here

http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/archives/000120.php

It began with a couple of old ladies lamenting that the church had no young people.   So they set about to pray every night.  Now these aren't the sort of prayers we typically think of that lasts maybe a couple of minutes.  These prayers go on for hours and have quite some emotional content. Then they got the church elder men to pray fervently like this also.  One night, the old women praying in their cottage, and the men were in a barn praying when suddenly the Holy Spirit descened and literaly there was an earth tremor.  Thus it began.  People would wake up in the night feeling convicted and would go out side finding more people feeling the same spiritual urgency and they would head to church in groups.

Now I believe Jung would say this is a synchronicity occurring from the collective unconscious of the masses spread across a geographic region.  An Alchemist might say it was Mercurius or Hermes communicating the message among all minds.




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 Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 10:34 pm

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What religion is this?



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I am pretty sure it was the Church of Scotland since the minister of the parish where the prayer was held sent his report of the events to that church's headquarters.



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 Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 11:57 pm

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But they said this event occurred in Wales.



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My bad, I got the Wales revival mixed up with the Scotland Hebrides revival.  The Hebrides Lewis revival happened in 1949, the Wales revival was in 1904 and very huge event too - but no audio recording of witnesses.



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Church of Scotland is Presbyterian.




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 Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 12:23 am

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There were some Methodists present also. Regional Revivals fueled by the Holy Ghost draw in everyone regardless of  Christian sect.

Roy mentioned earlier in this thread that the 12th century monk Joachim di Fiore prophesied the Age of the Spirit had begun and all believers can have direct contact with the Holy Ghost.  Fiore saw a temporal unfolding of the Trinity - first there was the Age of the Father, then the Age of the Son, and now the Age of the Holy Spirit.

Holy Ghost Primal Therapy - Amen!



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