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 Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 05:58 am

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 Posted: Wed May 6th, 2009 05:26 pm

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Canada, under the Law, treats Hate Speech as Terrorism.  Remember a certain Canadian female over at the other forums?  She posted vitrolic attacks against jews.  She would be rotting in prison as a Terrorist now under current Canadian Law.  One has to wonder how long it will before the USA treats speech as an act of Terrorism falling under the Patriot Act.    



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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 12:53 am

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This act is highly questionable, as much as I would like to empower investigative bodies to do what they have to do.

The Patriot Act


The Act increases the ability of law enforcement agencies to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eases restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expands the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and enhances the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts.

The act also expands the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.

The Act was passed by wide margins in both houses of Congress and was supported by members of both the Republican and Democratic parties. It has been criticized for weakening protections of civil liberties, as well as being overboard in regard to its circumstances of application.

In particular, opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the FBI to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional.

Many of the act's provisions were to sunset beginning December 31, 2005, approximately 4 years after its passage. In the months preceding the sunset date, supporters of the act pushed to make its sunsetting provisions permanent, while critics sought to revise various sections to enhance civil liberty protections. In July 2005, the U.S. Senate passed a reauthorization bill with substantial changes to several sections of the act, while the House reauthorization bill kept most of the act's original language. The two bills were then reconciled in a conference committee that was criticized by Senators from both the Republican and Democratic parties for ignoring civil liberty concerns.[1] The bill, which removed most of the changes from the Senate version, passed Congress on March 2, 2006 and was signed into law by President George W. Bush on March 9, 2006.



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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 02:01 pm

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Just what has Obama changed from the Bush administration?  Gitmo is still open.  The Patriot Act is loved by Obama.  Gorvernment treasure is still being given to the Wealthy Wall Street investment banks. War in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are continued or increased. Military spending is increased. Oh yes Water Boarding is "banned."  Big whoop-ti-do.  People voted for Obama because.... ??  He promises free stuff?



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