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*Phil*
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 Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 05:23 pm

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Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

From Harold Eberle, founder of Worldcast Ministries and Publishing

http://www.worldcastministries.com



If you are one of those who are still bemoaning the US presidential election, you need to consider the historic event that marks the most significant spiritual victory in the beginning of this century. In my book, Victorious Eschatology, I traced the last 2,000 years of history to show how specific historical events marked the dethroning of spiritual powers which have controlled the minds and hearts of humanity. With that frame of mind, consider how President-elect Obama was born a Muslim but now publicly declares that he is a Christian. You and I may question the sincerity of his Christianity, but for Christians who are ministering to the Muslim world, there is no denying the spiritual significance of having a Muslim-turned-Christian in the most powerful position on earth. According to Muslim thought it is impossible for a Muslim to turn Christian. If a person's father is a Muslim, then he is a Muslim. A person who is born a Muslim will always be a Muslim. That Islamic belief is now defied. Let the whole world know that Islam is falling. This marks the downfall of a spiritual authority that rules the hearts of more than one-fifth of the earth. In the same way that the communist wall fell in the recent past, so also there is another world-controlling demon being dethroned.

When the walls of Jericho fell the people ran forward to plunder the city. That is where we are at worldwide.

http://www.pilgrimgram.com/2009/03/harold-eberle-concerning-2009.html



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 Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 09:57 pm

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"I traced the last 2,000 years of history to show how specific historical events marked the dethroning of spiritual powers which have controlled the minds and hearts of humanity. With that frame of mind, consider how President-elect Obama was born a Muslim but now publicly declares that he is a Christian. You and I may question the sincerity of his Christianity, but for Christians who are ministering to the Muslim world, there is no denying the spiritual significance of having a Muslim-turned-Christian in the most powerful position on earth."


Spoken like a true Zionist! Lying through his/her teeth and thinking that we're so brain-washed that we'll buy into it.

ZIONIST JEWISH MIND CONTROL- A CASE STUDY -

By Brother Nathanael Kapner

CONTROLLING THE PUBLIC MIND through the major and minor media is a prime component of Zionist Jewry’s (and their willing non-jew accomplices) quest for cultural dominance in America, a province once held by white Christian Americans. Mass mind control is now an advanced and exact science having been perfected over the past century with the advent of radio and the following deluge of electronic media led by Jewish-dominated television and film, the most devastating mediums of propaganda and mental, cultural conditioning in history.

For the past several decades, the centerpiece of the Zionist’s control over general Western public opinion is their use of “Holocaust Remembrance” propaganda (see also Prof Norman Finkelstein’s The Holocaust Industry) to instill guilt for ‘Jewish victimization’ in the white Gentile masses, whose independent interests, open inquiry and unfettered voice, media-dominant American Jewry has successfully suppressed. (Elsewhere, Brother Kapner explains that the Zionist Jews were also responsible for promoting the Holocaust. You have no idea how evil these Zionist Jews really are until you examine their Talmud. It reads almost like the Qu'ran - but it's much worse!)

Extremist Jews have the means at their disposal through the press, screen, infiltration of public school curriculae, and sheer political muscle (AIPAC being the most obvious example) to engineer their particular narration of guilt-ridden history in order to form attitudes and actions that define for the non-Jew what a “righteous Gentile” is. View ADL’S Mind Control Of Gentile Children Here & Here.



The movie Schindler’s List, produced by the powerhouse Hollywood Jew, Steven Spielberg, is an example of Judeocentric determinism and socialization, if not downright re-education, of the non-Jew.
For the hero of Schindler’s List, German-born Oskar Schindler, is crowned a “righteous Gentile” who gets a free ticket to Jew Heaven for protecting Jews from the Nazis during WWII. In other words, “protect and defend Jews,” regardless of how immoral some of them may be, and one’s salvation is guaranteed.

That’s the ultimate message in ‘List,’ but make no mistake, for a non-Jew to feel instant ‘guilt’ even when the word ‘Jew’ is mentioned is the ultimate goal of Zionism and it’s Holocaust theme.

Recently, a Hollywood establishment member was asked if the Holocaust is not finally wearing a little thin as a film theme. He instantly retorted, paraphrasing, ‘No way! The Holocaust is the greatest story line in human history!”
A CASE STUDY
IN ZIONIST JEWISH MIND CONTROL
THE NOW LEGENDARY RADIO HOST and journalist, Jeff Rense, of Rense.com, has something on the order of 40-50 guests a month on his Radio Show representing an unprecedented diverse panorama of news, information and opinion. If someone has thought it, it has probably been mentioned in the 16 years the program has been on the air.
As a favor to a fellow journalist, Rense recently extended an invitation to an ex-attorney, Leo Donofrio, who has been chasing the spectre of Obama’s true birth place on the Internet and in court.

However, just over ten minutes before Donofrio was to present his work on the Rense program, he emailed the host and canceled his guest visit on October 8, 2009, scheduled for 9 PM Pacific Time. Fortunately Mr. Rense happened to glance at his computer screen and saw the email. In any case, Donofrio stated in his email to the show host and on his Blog, that he was canceling his appearance due to his “Holocaust” sensitivities. Here is part of that posted announcement and email:

I Have Canceled My Appearance On The Jeff Rense Radio Program
“I just went to the Rense.com site to get the feed for the show. At the site, sprawled on the front page is a huge picture of Holocaust denial advocate Ernst Zundel. While I do believe in free speech for all, I cannot risk being associated with anyone who denies one of the most horrific moments in history. The Holocaust was real and we can never forget the atrocity.” View Entire Announcement Here.

This was a strange and unusual thing to do to any host, most especially because the program had nothing whatever to do with the Holocaust. Jeff Rense responded to Donofrio via email with the following remarks:
“This is a tough position for you to put me in. If you are that afraid, you could certainly voice a disclaimer. The site Rense.com is not the Radio Show, although it is advertised there. As for David Dees’ art, it is one of a thousand opinions I present every month which is utterly crucial if we are going to sustain the First Amendment.

‘If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all,’ said the renowned Jewish author, Noam Chomsky.

The text you allude to does not cross any boundaries and urges something World Zionism will never allow: An honest, REAL investigation of what truly happened in WW2.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 21st, 2009 10:01 pm

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You're missing what God is doing in the bigger picture.

When Obama was elected president...

Christians preaching the Gospel in muslim countries can now point to Obama
  • Kenya celebrated with a holiday and dancing in the streets.
  • A muslim has a son who converts to be a Christian.
  • It is now OK to come out of one religion and become a Christian
  • The Gospel is triggered in Islam.
  • The Kingdom is expanding everywhere!
  • A surge of Christianity in Muslim nations has begun.
These Christians evangelizing in Islamic nations put their lives on the line for Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 12:05 am

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"These Christians evangelizing in Islamic nations put their lives on the line for Jesus Christ."

Obama, in order to pass scrutiny (or fool Americans) of the American public, lied when he said he was a Christian. After becoming "president," he went to the Mid-East and made it quite clear that he was a Muslim, that America was also a Muslim country. With his words, he again put Christians to the fire.

Revelation 6:9-11
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; and they cried out with a loud voice, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?" Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.



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Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit. Proverbs 18:21

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