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Roy
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Posted: Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 03:21 am |
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More important than just that this got censored, are the idiot letters written about it.
I mean no one gets irony. No one gets that the real issue here is not the content of the strip, which is run-of-the-mill cartoon stuff of a political nature, but that the strip got censored by the Washington Post!
Where are their Freedom of Speech cajones!!??
Reading the letters written to Salon.com about it, you would think that the issues here was American sexism, American ovverreaching, the nature of freedom and a lot of things that might just have been relevant if the cartoon hadn't been censored, God Dam It!
Right now, the fucking issue is CENSORFUCKINGSHIP, and little else.
Check the letters here at letters to Salon about this cartoon
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Posted: Tue Sep 4th, 2007 04:39 pm |
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| This makes me wonder what else is being edited out of the Washington Post. Is this just the visible tip of the iceberg?
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Roy
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Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2007 04:10 pm |
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Yes, exactly. Especially since that cartoon wasn't offensive at all, just a decent and realistic assessment of human nature.
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Posted: Sat Sep 8th, 2007 04:31 pm |
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Censorship? No... Censorshit.
Even if the cartoon was, in fact, offensive or provocative, so what? It's both a risk that free speech is meant to allow, to say unpopular things which may offend, and beyond this, with humour, often, it becomes possible to address very delicate issues with the sort of candor, and interestingly enough, honesty other formats may not readily allow.
My problem with censorshit is this: It very much is a deterent to discussion and dialogue. It aims to remove "All that can be defined as overly objectionable" but in trying to establish what that is, it also makes it impossibly hard to have a sincere and open discussion regarding people's sensibilities and vulnerabilities. We also gain no understanding from those who would find the work objectionable as to why they perceive it as such. And if it takes something "objectionable" to stimulate dialogue, I tend to fail to see the downside down the road, too.
Plus... does anyone know why the Post annexed this cartoon? What the official reason is? I don't even see anything mildly offensive in there.
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Roy
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Posted: Sat Sep 8th, 2007 05:19 pm |
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Mr. P, the answer to your question about why the Washington Post censored this rather innocuous cartoon would be the difference between you and a modern liberal.
The modern liberal, as opposed to the true liberal or true libertarian, doesn't really value liberty as the strife involved upsets him too much.
In Jungian psychology we say that this man is "anima-possessed". We mean that the person is possessed by an override to certain moods or feelings that can never be allowed to manifest, the way, for example, a mother controls a bunch of kids at a party and doesn't allow certain kinds of things to be said.
Of course, for a party, that would be ok. But, for the greater world such a compulsive application and enforcement of a form of what is essentially etiquette, is disgusting.
You feel it, Mr P, because you are whole. "They", the modern libs, don't feel threatened by the loss of the liberty to express themselves, but rather they feel better by being able to dampen rising emotions and feelings that would cancel out their compulsive, smother-mother imposition of "peace".
The "Christ" of the situation would be the person put on the cross to satisfy the need of a group to punish the person whose attitude unmasked the sell-out by the group to a knee-jerk orthodoxy such as modern political correctness.
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Corvus
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Posted: Tue Sep 11th, 2007 01:11 am |
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so we are willing to risk another 911 again . . . for freedom . . .
I am . . .
Last edited on Tue Sep 11th, 2007 01:11 am by Corvus
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Roy
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Posted: Tue Sep 11th, 2007 01:41 am |
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Yes, Corvus, we are not going to submit. You have understood well that suffocation to avoid 9/11 is not on the table.
To avoid 9/11, we kill the people who would do it. We have more than the right. We have the obligation.
Hey, and very good about that "I am"!!
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