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Nocturne
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 Posted: Mon Jul 13th, 2009 08:27 pm

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Hello Roy, Phil and the rest of you...

 

 This just gets worse and worse, what is the world coming to.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8147534.stm



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 Posted: Tue Jul 14th, 2009 06:00 am

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Damn. I guess we can never assume we are not under surveillance.

How is the family doing and you, too?



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 Posted: Thu Jul 16th, 2009 08:07 pm

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Good thanks,

 

family okay, daughter still on the edge puberty madness and 'fighting' with her mother.

been taking 10mg of Lithium vits for the last two months, good results

 

Noc

?any sign of you and PG getting healed, in terms of friendship?



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 Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2009 12:06 pm

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Hi Nocturne.   I've felt your pain regarding mother-daughter fights.  You have my sympathies.  My daughter is 14 now.  Not as many fights than they had a year or two ago.  There are very few "perfect" kids and those one can wonder if it is merely apparent perfection, a mask over something.  A few weeks ago I got a psychology book about teen girls so I might gain some professional insight.  My daughter took it and read the whole thing herself then read whole chapters out loud to me.



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 Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2009 05:57 pm

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That is a good daughter that you have got there, Phil. That is great. She will help you figure her out while she helps herself figure herself out.

It is all about control, creating distance, and shifting loyalties and self-esteem criteria to the peer group so that we can "mate" successfully.



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 Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2009 02:18 pm

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A problem shared is a problem halved... good to mine is not the only family with this situation, or experience of this situation.

My wife and daughter are too alike, daughter 'sort of' fighting for alpha female...

would you think of having more kids Phil?



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 Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2009 02:33 pm

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I have a list of regrets.  Choosing to have only one child is high on the list.  Of course we have no idea where the path not taken would have led us.  Now I think stopping after having four or five would have been best. I imagine two boys and three girls to be awesome.  But even just one more would have been good because kids need siblings for their own psychology, so they can recognize themselves in the family structure.  At the time we really wanted to have one good quality one.  We've got that and count our blessings.  Now we're too old I think, the medical risks to wife and fetus would be great, and we've moved on. 











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 Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 02:43 am

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You want privacy?  Hmmm...  very suspicious!  Everyone is a suspect to the Government since 9/11.



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